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Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.04.20 06:49:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:They get to know people. lots of vent talk and suddenly you are talking about stuff outside the game. How people can do that for 6 months and then knowingly rip them is really harsh. Because they're still just players. If the scammer actually got to know his target(s), met them at a Fanfest, visited them, met families, went on golf outings, then I believe their resolve to pull the big scam would be greatly diminished. It could be argued that once a person has crossed that boundary from player into person, then scamming them might very well be psychopathic behaviour, no longer of the virtual variety.
Not to far back there was actually a thread that described something close to this. He was bored in a 0.0 alliance,created an alt and joined a high sec mining corp purely to gain their trust and with the long term goal to rob them blind. He got to know them and eventually joined the corp with his main and helped the corp prosper.
I wish i remembered where i saw the thread or who wrote it.
But this also isent such an..unusual thing as you might expect. I suspect that there is a high amount of players that start off with something like this in mind and then end up not wanting to go trough with it because they feel "closer" to the people then they expected they would. From personal exsperiense i have also seen this with war targets. Classic griefer corps that war dec you just for fun,but then get to know the people they have war decced and both sides end up just having fun with it. I remember in one particular case we actually ended up agreeing to just not agress eachother outside of of certain systems or speficic days,and in the meantime they tried to help us with advice and so on that could help improve our PVP skills, and on the last day both sides just met up in a system in cheap cruisers and blew eachother up 
But ofc i have also seen things go the other way. I remember one member we had..really good guy even if he couldent be to active due to being in the army. He was in the corp for over a year and many of our members really trusted him. But then he came back from the army on leave once and next thing we know he had robbed us blind since he was joining a friend in a pirate corp or something. He said that his friend had talked him into robbing us but who knows...
But me and him still split on good terms.. We both realize that its just pixels and your ingame actions does not reflect who you are in real life (as an example a guy who works as a prison guard who was a hard core pirate  ). I know the members felt betrayed,but thats just how EVE is and it dident do any harm but to cause them to be even more paranoid then they already where,which in EVE isent always a bad thing.
But as mentioned in other posts as well..there if a fine line... Harassment is one of the few things i feel are really crossing the line from being ingame/not real to something that affects you in real life. Im saying this after knowing several female gamers who run into issues with guys refusing to leave them alone and really making them feel uncomfterbale. I have also heard about things where people will trash down on you (deliberatly to hurt you) because your female,or gay. And in worst case i heard about it was a girl that was a mute who got harassed so badly by the other girls in the corp because you couldent "proove" that she was a female that she ended up avoiding joining any corporations and eventually just quit the game all together. All these things are personal attacks on something that is real. Some can deal with them,some cant. Some people that do it dont see why its wrong,and others do it to make up for being bullied in school. But no matter what...You cant play any online game without expecting this to happen and sadly there is little that can be done about it. But again,i wouldent go as far as to say that this behavoir indicates a serius mental issue. Desperation to get acknowledged and dont have the proper exsperiense to get it any other ways perhaps but...
Bah this post became a bit longer then i intended,so here is the TLDR version
Just because you THINK you know someone it dosent mean they wont rip you off. And if someone causes you harm in EVE it certanly dosent mean that they are bad people or mentally unstable/damaged in real life. |